MICHAEL COHEN DAY. JOINING US IN OUR FIRST PANEL OF JOINING US IN OUR FIRST PANEL OF GUESTS TONIGHT. GUESTS TONIGHT. AND THERE IS SO MUCH TO REPORT AND THERE IS SO MUCH TO REPORT ON THAT. ON THAT. WE LEARNED NEW THINGS. WE LEARNED NEW THINGS. THAT’S WHAT ONE MEMBER OF THE THAT’S WHAT ONE MEMBER OF THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE SAID TODAY AFTER MICHAEL COHEN’S SAID TODAY AFTER MICHAEL COHEN’S SECOND CLOSED SESSION IN A WEEK SECOND CLOSED SESSION IN A WEEK TESTIFYING TO THAT COMMITTEE. TESTIFYING TO THAT COMMITTEE. THE MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE — THE MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE — THAT MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE THAT MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE ALSO SAID THAT MICHAEL COHEN ALSO SAID THAT MICHAEL COHEN BROUGHT NEW DOCUMENTS TO THE BROUGHT NEW DOCUMENTS TO THE COMMITTEE TODAY. COMMITTEE TODAY. THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE THE CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE ADAM SCHIFF SAID IT WAS A, ADAM SCHIFF SAID IT WAS A, QUOTE, ENORMOUSLY PRODUCTIVE QUOTE, ENORMOUSLY PRODUCTIVE SESSION. SESSION. ONE OF THE THINGS THE HOUSE ONE OF THE THINGS THE HOUSE INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEES ARE INVESTIGATIVE COMMITTEES ARE TRYING TO LEARN IS WHETHER PUMP TRYING TO LEARN IS WHETHER PUMP OR HIS LAWYERS TRIED TO USE THE OR HIS LAWYERS TRIED TO USE THE POSSIBILITY OF A PRESIDENTIAL POSSIBILITY OF A PRESIDENTIAL PARDON TO PREVENT MICHAEL COHEN PARDON TO PREVENT MICHAEL COHEN AND OTHERS FROM TESTIFYING AND OTHERS FROM TESTIFYING AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. IN A BREAKING NEWS REPORT IN A BREAKING NEWS REPORT TONIGHT “THE NEW YORK TIMES” IS TONIGHT “THE NEW YORK TIMES” IS REPORTING THAT THE PRESIDENT’S REPORTING THAT THE PRESIDENT’S TV LAWYER RUDY GIULIANI SAYS TV LAWYER RUDY GIULIANI SAYS THAT LAWYERS FOR SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT LAWYERS FOR SEVERAL PEOPLE APPROACHED HIM ABOUT THE APPROACHED HIM ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PRESIDENTIAL POSSIBILITY OF PRESIDENTIAL PARDONS. PARDONS. “THE TIMES” REPORTS MR. GIULIANI “THE TIMES” REPORTS MR. GIULIANI WHO HAS BEEN REPRESENTING MR. WHO HAS BEEN REPRESENTING MR. TRUMP SINCE LAST SPRING SAYS HE TRUMP SINCE LAST SPRING SAYS HE ALWAYS INSISTED TO DEFENSE ALWAYS INSISTED TO DEFENSE LAWYERS THAT IN TRUMP WOULD NOT LAWYERS THAT IN TRUMP WOULD NOT CONSIDER GRANTING PARDONS UNTIL CONSIDER GRANTING PARDONS UNTIL THE INVESTIGATIONS WERE LONG THE INVESTIGATIONS WERE LONG OVER. OVER. I ALWAYS GAVE ONE ANSWER AND I ALWAYS GAVE ONE ANSWER AND THEY ALWAYS LEFT DISAPPOINTED, THEY ALWAYS LEFT DISAPPOINTED, MR. GIULIANI SAID. MR. GIULIANI SAID. “THE TIMES” NOTES TONIGHT THAT “THE TIMES” NOTES TONIGHT THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S FIRST LEGAL PRESIDENT TRUMP’S FIRST LEGAL TEAM, HEADED BY WASHINGTON TEAM, HEADED BY WASHINGTON LAWYER JOHN DOWD, QUOTE, HAD LAWYER JOHN DOWD, QUOTE, HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH LAWYERS FOR DISCUSSIONS WITH LAWYERS FOR PAUL MANAFORT AND MICHAEL T. PAUL MANAFORT AND MICHAEL T. FLYNN IN 2017 ABOUT PARDONS. FLYNN IN 2017 ABOUT PARDONS. ABC NEWS IS REPORTING THAT IN ABC NEWS IS REPORTING THAT IN THE WEEKS FOLLOWING THE RAID ON THE WEEKS FOLLOWING THE RAID ON MICHAEL COHEN’S HOME, OFFICE AND MICHAEL COHEN’S HOME, OFFICE AND HOTEL ROOM LAST YEAR, MICHAEL HOTEL ROOM LAST YEAR, MICHAEL COHEN WAS, QUOTE, CONTACTED BY COHEN WAS, QUOTE, CONTACTED BY TWO NEW YORK ATTORNEYS WHO TWO NEW YORK ATTORNEYS WHO CLAIMED TO BE IN CLOSE CONTACT CLAIMED TO BE IN CLOSE CONTACT WITH RUDY GIULIANI. WITH RUDY GIULIANI. SOURCES DESCRIBED THE LAWYERS’ SOURCES DESCRIBED THE LAWYERS’ CONTACT WITH COHEN AS AN EFFORT CONTACT WITH COHEN AS AN EFFORT TO KEEP HIM IN THE TENT. TO KEEP HIM IN THE TENT. NBC NEWS HAS CONFIRMED THAT NBC NEWS HAS CONFIRMED THAT ACCORDING TO A SOURCE FAMILIAR ACCORDING TO A SOURCE FAMILIAR WITH THE MATTER, MICHAEL COHEN WITH THE MATTER, MICHAEL COHEN PROVIDED THE INTELLIGENCE PROVIDED THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE TODAY WITH NEW COMMITTEE TODAY WITH NEW DOCUMENTS SHOWING EDITS TO THE DOCUMENTS SHOWING EDITS TO THE WRITTEN STATEMENT THAT HE WRITTEN STATEMENT THAT HE DELIVERED TO CONGRESS IN 2017 DELIVERED TO CONGRESS IN 2017 ABOUT A PROJECT TO BUILD A ABOUT A PROJECT TO BUILD A MOSCOW TRUMP TOWER. MOSCOW TRUMP TOWER. HERE’S WHAT MICHAEL COHEN SAID HERE’S WHAT MICHAEL COHEN SAID ABOUT THOSE EDITS IN LAST WEEK’S ABOUT THOSE EDITS IN LAST WEEK’S PUBLIC HEARING. PUBLIC HEARING.>>MR. TRUMP’S PERSONAL LAWYERS>>MR. TRUMP’S PERSONAL LAWYERS REVIEWED AND EDITED MY STATEMENT REVIEWED AND EDITED MY STATEMENT TO CONGRESS ABOUT THE TIMING OF TO CONGRESS ABOUT THE TIMING OF THE MOSCOW TOWER NEGOTIATIONS THE MOSCOW TOWER NEGOTIATIONS BEFORE I GAVE IT. BEFORE I GAVE IT. SO TO BE CLEAR, MR. TRUMP KNEW SO TO BE CLEAR, MR. TRUMP KNEW OF AND DIRECTED THE TRUMP MOSCOW OF AND DIRECTED THE TRUMP MOSCOW NEGOTIATIONS THROUGHOUT THE NEGOTIATIONS THROUGHOUT THE CAMPAIGN AND LIED ABOUT IT. CAMPAIGN AND LIED ABOUT IT. HE LIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE HE LIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE NEVER EXPECTED TO WIN. NEVER EXPECTED TO WIN. HE ALSO LIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE HE ALSO LIED ABOUT IT BECAUSE HE STOOD TO MAKE HUNDREDS OF STOOD TO MAKE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE MOSCOW REAL ESTATE PROJECT. MOSCOW REAL ESTATE PROJECT. AND SO I LIED ABOUT IT, TOO. AND SO I LIED ABOUT IT, TOO. BECAUSE MR. TRUMP HAD MADE CLEAR BECAUSE MR. TRUMP HAD MADE CLEAR TO ME THROUGH HIS PERSONAL TO ME THROUGH HIS PERSONAL STATEMENTS TO ME THAT WE BOTH STATEMENTS TO ME THAT WE BOTH KNEW TO BE FALSE, AND THROUGH KNEW TO BE FALSE, AND THROUGH HIS LIES TO THE COUNTRY THAT HE HIS LIES TO THE COUNTRY THAT HE WANTED ME TO LIE. WANTED ME TO LIE. AND HE MADE IT CLEAR TO ME AND HE MADE IT CLEAR TO ME BECAUSE HIS PERSONAL ATTORNEYS BECAUSE HIS PERSONAL ATTORNEYS REVIEWED MY STATEMENT BEFORE I REVIEWED MY STATEMENT BEFORE I GAVE IT TO CONGRESS. GAVE IT TO CONGRESS.>>MICHAEL COHEN HAS PLEADED>>MICHAEL COHEN HAS PLEADED GUILTY TO LYING TO CONGRESS. GUILTY TO LYING TO CONGRESS. IN THAT WRITTEN STATEMENT THAT IN THAT WRITTEN STATEMENT THAT HE NOW SAYS WAS EDITED BY DONALD HE NOW SAYS WAS EDITED BY DONALD TRUMP’S LAWYERS. TRUMP’S LAWYERS. TRUMP ATTORNEY JAY SEKULOW TRUMP ATTORNEY JAY SEKULOW DENIED THE ALLEGATION BY MICHAEL DENIED THE ALLEGATION BY MICHAEL COHEN THAT TRUMP LAWYERS COHEN THAT TRUMP LAWYERS SUBORNED THE PERJURY TO CONGRESS SUBORNED THE PERJURY TO CONGRESS THAT MICHAEL COHEN HAS NOW THAT MICHAEL COHEN HAS NOW CONFESSED TO AND PLEADED GUILTY CONFESSED TO AND PLEADED GUILTY TO. TO. HERE’S WHAT INTELLIGENCE HERE’S WHAT INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN ADAM SCHIFF SAID ABOUT MICHAEL COHEN’S NEW SAID ABOUT MICHAEL COHEN’S NEW TESTIMONY TODAY. TESTIMONY TODAY.>>HE ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION>>HE ANSWERED EVERY QUESTION THAT WAS PUT TO HIM BY MEMBERS THAT WAS PUT TO HIM BY MEMBERS OF BOTH PARTIES. OF BOTH PARTIES. HE WAS FULLY COOPERATIVE WITH HE WAS FULLY COOPERATIVE WITH THE COMMITTEE. THE COMMITTEE. WE HAD REQUESTED DOCUMENTS OF WE HAD REQUESTED DOCUMENTS OF MR. COHEN. MR. COHEN. HE HAS PROVIDE ADD ADEQUATE HE HAS PROVIDE ADD ADEQUATE DOCUMENTS DOCUMENTS ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS TO THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS TO THE COMMITTEE. COMMITTEE. HIS COOPERATION WITH OUR HIS COOPERATION WITH OUR COMMITTEE CONTINUES. COMMITTEE CONTINUES. SO I THINK THE MEMBERS FOUND IT SO I THINK THE MEMBERS FOUND IT AN ENORMOUSLY PRODUCTIVE AN ENORMOUSLY PRODUCTIVE SESSION. SESSION.>>SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL>>SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS THAT MICHAEL COHEN DOCUMENTS THAT MICHAEL COHEN SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE TODAY SUBMITTED TO THE COMMITTEE TODAY NO DOUBT INCLUDE COPIES OF NO DOUBT INCLUDE COPIES OF CHECKS TO MICHAEL COHEN THAT CHECKS TO MICHAEL COHEN THAT WERE PUBLISHED IN “THE NEW YORK WERE PUBLISHED IN “THE NEW YORK TIMES” TODAY. TIMES” TODAY. LAST WEEK’S HEARING, MICHAEL LAST WEEK’S HEARING, MICHAEL COHEN REVEALED SOME CHECKS THAT COHEN REVEALED SOME CHECKS THAT HE SAID WERE PART OF DONALD HE SAID WERE PART OF DONALD TRUMP’S REIMBURSEMENT TO HIM FOR TRUMP’S REIMBURSEMENT TO HIM FOR THE $130,000 THAT MICHAEL COHEN THE $130,000 THAT MICHAEL COHEN ILLEGALLY PAID TO STORMY DANIELS ILLEGALLY PAID TO STORMY DANIELS DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, A CRIME THAT MICHAEL CAMPAIGN, A CRIME THAT MICHAEL COHEN SAYS HE COMMITTED AT THE COHEN SAYS HE COMMITTED AT THE DIRECTION OF THEN PRESIDENTIAL DIRECTION OF THEN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE DONALD TRUMP. CANDIDATE DONALD TRUMP. WE NOW HAVE EIGHT OF THE CHECKS WE NOW HAVE EIGHT OF THE CHECKS THAT WERE PART OF THAT THAT WERE PART OF THAT REIMBURSEMENT SCHEME. REIMBURSEMENT SCHEME. THE FIRST TWO OF THESE CHECKS THE FIRST TWO OF THESE CHECKS ARE FROM THE DONALD TRUMP TRUST ARE FROM THE DONALD TRUMP TRUST ACCOUNT, AN ACCOUNT THAT WAS ACCOUNT, AN ACCOUNT THAT WAS ESTABLISHED WHEN DONALD TRUMP ESTABLISHED WHEN DONALD TRUMP BECAME PRESIDENT AND A TRUST WAS BECAME PRESIDENT AND A TRUST WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE TRUMP COMPANY ESTABLISHED BY THE TRUMP COMPANY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO ISOLATE THE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO ISOLATE THE TRUMP BUSINESS FROM DONALD TRUMP TRUMP BUSINESS FROM DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF DURING THE PRESIDENCY. HIMSELF DURING THE PRESIDENCY. THOSE FIRST TWO CHECKS FROM THE THOSE FIRST TWO CHECKS FROM THE TRUST ARE SIGNED BY THE TRUST ARE SIGNED BY THE COMPANY’S CHIEF FINANCIAL COMPANY’S CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER ALLEN WEISSLEBERG AND OFFICER ALLEN WEISSLEBERG AND DONALD TRUMP JR. DONALD TRUMP JR. THE NEXT CHECK IN THE SEQUENCE THE NEXT CHECK IN THE SEQUENCE SHOULD BE AN APRIL CHECK, WHICH SHOULD BE AN APRIL CHECK, WHICH WE HAVE NOT YET SEEN, AND THE WE HAVE NOT YET SEEN, AND THE CHECK AFTER THAT IS A MAY 23rd CHECK AFTER THAT IS A MAY 23rd CHECK THAT IS THE FIRST ONE IN CHECK THAT IS THE FIRST ONE IN THE SEQUENCE THAT COMES FROM A THE SEQUENCE THAT COMES FROM A DIFFERENT CHECKING ACCOUNT. DIFFERENT CHECKING ACCOUNT. IT APPEARS TO BE A PERSONAL IT APPEARS TO BE A PERSONAL CHECKING ACCOUNT OF DONALD J. CHECKING ACCOUNT OF DONALD J. TRUMP AND IT IS SIGNED BY DONALD TRUMP AND IT IS SIGNED BY DONALD TRUMP. TRUMP. WHY THE CHANGE IN CHECKS? WHY THE CHANGE IN CHECKS? WHY THE DIFFERENT CHECKS FROM A WHY THE DIFFERENT CHECKS FROM A DIFFERENT CHECKING ACCOUNT DIFFERENT CHECKING ACCOUNT SUDDENLY ON MAY 23rd, 2017? SUDDENLY ON MAY 23rd, 2017? WHY DID THE TRUMP BUSINESS WHY DID THE TRUMP BUSINESS DECIDE THEY NO LONGER SHOULD BE DECIDE THEY NO LONGER SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE PAYMENTS TO INVOLVED IN THE PAYMENTS TO MICHAEL COHEN? MICHAEL COHEN? ROBERT MUELLER WAS APPOINTED ROBERT MUELLER WAS APPOINTED SPECIAL PROSECUTOR ON MAY 17th, SPECIAL PROSECUTOR ON MAY 17th, 2017. 2017. AND IT IS THE VERY NEXT CHECK AND IT IS THE VERY NEXT CHECK AFTER THAT, SIX DAYS LATER. AFTER THAT, SIX DAYS LATER. THE MAY 23rd CHECK THAT SUDDENLY THE MAY 23rd CHECK THAT SUDDENLY COMES FROM A DIFFERENT CHECKING COMES FROM A DIFFERENT CHECKING ACCOUNT AND IS SIGNED BY DONALD ACCOUNT AND IS SIGNED BY DONALD TRUMP PERSONALLY. TRUMP PERSONALLY. AND ALL OF THE CHECKS AND ALL OF THE CHECKS REIMBURSING MICHAEL COHEN FOR REIMBURSING MICHAEL COHEN FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR COME FROM THE REST OF THE YEAR COME FROM THAT DIFFERENT CHECKING ACCOUNT THAT DIFFERENT CHECKING ACCOUNT NOW THAT DONALD TRUMP AND NOW THAT DONALD TRUMP AND EVERYONE AT THE TRUMP BUSINESS EVERYONE AT THE TRUMP BUSINESS KNOWS THAT THERE IS A SPECIAL KNOWS THAT THERE IS A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR INVESTING — PROSECUTOR INVESTING — INVESTIGATING DONALD TRUMP AND INVESTIGATING DONALD TRUMP AND THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION. THE TRUMP ORGANIZATION. AND ALL OF THE REST OF THOSE AND ALL OF THE REST OF THOSE PAYOFF CHECKS TO MICHAEL COHEN PAYOFF CHECKS TO MICHAEL COHEN COME FROM THAT DONALD TRUMP COME FROM THAT DONALD TRUMP CHECKING ACCOUNT WITH ONLY ONE CHECKING ACCOUNT WITH ONLY ONE SIGNATURE ON THOSE CHECKS, ONLY SIGNATURE ON THOSE CHECKS, ONLY THE SIGNATURE OF DONALD TRUMP. THE SIGNATURE OF DONALD TRUMP. WAS ALLEN WEISSLEBERG NO LONGER WAS ALLEN WEISSLEBERG NO LONGER WILLING TO SIGN THOSE CHECKS? WILLING TO SIGN THOSE CHECKS? WHY DID ALLEN WEISSLEBERG STOP WHY DID ALLEN WEISSLEBERG STOP SIGNING THOSE REIMBURSEMENT SIGNING THOSE REIMBURSEMENT CHECKS TO MICHAEL COHEN AFTER CHECKS TO MICHAEL COHEN AFTER ROBERT MUELLER WAS APPOINTED ROBERT MUELLER WAS APPOINTED SPECIAL PROSECUTOR? SPECIAL PROSECUTOR? SURELY SOMEONE IN THE HOUSE SURELY SOMEONE IN THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE TODAY INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE TODAY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS ASKED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS ASKED MICHAEL COHEN THAT QUESTION. MICHAEL COHEN THAT QUESTION. HERE’S WHAT MICHAEL COHEN HAD TO HERE’S WHAT MICHAEL COHEN HAD TO SAY AFTER THAT CLOSED-DOOR SAY AFTER THAT CLOSED-DOOR HEARING TODAY. HEARING TODAY.>>THE HEARINGS WENT VERY, VERY>>THE HEARINGS WENT VERY, VERY WELL. WELL. I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE I BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE MEMBERS WERE SATISFIED WITH THE MEMBERS WERE SATISFIED WITH THE STATEMENTS AND THE RESPONSES STATEMENTS AND THE RESPONSES THAT I GAVE TO THEM. THAT I GAVE TO THEM. I TOLD THEM THAT ANY ADDITIONAL I TOLD THEM THAT ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT THEY WOULD INFORMATION THAT THEY WOULD WANT, THEY SHOULD FEEL WANT, THEY SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE TO REACH OUT TO MY COMFORTABLE TO REACH OUT TO MY COUNSEL AND I WOULD CONTINUE TO COUNSEL AND I WOULD CONTINUE TO COOPERATE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT COOPERATE TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF MY CAPABILITIES. OF MY CAPABILITIES.>>JOINING US NOW, FRIEND OF>>JOINING US NOW, FRIEND OF MICHAEL COHEN, DONNY DEUTSCH, MICHAEL COHEN, DONNY DEUTSCH, MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR. MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR. HE TEXTED WITH MICHAEL COHEN HE TEXTED WITH MICHAEL COHEN BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER HIS BEFORE, DURING AND AFTER HIS CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY TODAY. CONGRESSIONAL TESTIMONY TODAY. SO HE HAS THE LATEST FOR US. SO HE HAS THE LATEST FOR US. AND TIM O’BRIEN, EXECUTIVE AND TIM O’BRIEN, EXECUTIVE EDITOR OF BLOOMBERG. EDITOR OF BLOOMBERG. . . AN MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR. AN MSNBC CONTRIBUTOR. HE’S BEEN REPORTING ON DONALD HE’S BEEN REPORTING ON DONALD TRUMP LITERALLY FOR DECADES. TRUMP LITERALLY FOR DECADES. HE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT DONALD HE WROTE A BOOK ABOUT DONALD TRUMP THAT GOT HIM SUED BY TRUMP THAT GOT HIM SUED BY DONALD TRUMP AND TIM O’BRIEN WON DONALD TRUMP AND TIM O’BRIEN WON THAT LAWSUIT. THAT LAWSUIT. DONNY, THE CHECKS. DONNY, THE CHECKS. SEEING THIS CHANGE WHERE YOU SEEING THIS CHANGE WHERE YOU HAVE — YOU GO FROM THE TWO HAVE — YOU GO FROM THE TWO SIGNATURES OF ALLEN WEISSLEBERG SIGNATURES OF ALLEN WEISSLEBERG AND DONALD TRUMP JR. AND AND DONALD TRUMP JR. AND SUDDENLY NO ONE’S WILLING TO SUDDENLY NO ONE’S WILLING TO SIGN THESE CHECKS ANYMORE AFTER SIGN THESE CHECKS ANYMORE AFTER A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR’S ANNOUNCED A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR’S ANNOUNCED AND WE SEE ONE SIGNATURE ON THE AND WE SEE ONE SIGNATURE ON THE CHECKS, DONALD TRUMP. CHECKS, DONALD TRUMP.>>YEAH.>>YEAH. I THINK YOU LAY IT OUT I THINK YOU LAY IT OUT PERFECTLY. PERFECTLY. AND I THINK WHAT’S INTERESTING AND I THINK WHAT’S INTERESTING IS THAT WEISSLEBERG, AND WE IS THAT WEISSLEBERG, AND WE TALKED LAST TIME TIM AND I WERE TALKED LAST TIME TIM AND I WERE ON, ABOUT HOW HE’S GOING TO BE ON, ABOUT HOW HE’S GOING TO BE SUCH A KEY FIGURE. SUCH A KEY FIGURE. HE WAS THE GUY DOING EVERYTHING. HE WAS THE GUY DOING EVERYTHING. SO IT’S FASCINATING THAT ALL OF SO IT’S FASCINATING THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN TRUMP IS SIGNING HIS A SUDDEN TRUMP IS SIGNING HIS OWN CHECKS. OWN CHECKS. AND ONE OTHER THING ABOUT TRUMP AND ONE OTHER THING ABOUT TRUMP AND CHECKS. AND CHECKS. TRUMP DOES NOT LIKE TO PAY TRUMP DOES NOT LIKE TO PAY MONEY. MONEY. PEOPLE KNOW WHO WORK FOR TRUMP PEOPLE KNOW WHO WORK FOR TRUMP IN NEW YORK OVER THE YEARS. IN NEW YORK OVER THE YEARS.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>VERY HARD TO COLLECT FOR>>VERY HARD TO COLLECT FOR ANYTHING. ANYTHING. HERE NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN DONALD HERE NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN DONALD TRUMP AMIDST HIS DAILY TRUMP AMIDST HIS DAILY PRESIDENTIAL ROUTINES IS WRITING PRESIDENTIAL ROUTINES IS WRITING RETAINER CHECKS TO A GUY WHO HE RETAINER CHECKS TO A GUY WHO HE SAYS BARELY EVEN WHEN HE WAS SAYS BARELY EVEN WHEN HE WAS WORKING FOR HIM WAS HIS LAWYER. WORKING FOR HIM WAS HIS LAWYER. NOW HE HASN’T WORKED FOR HIM NOW HE HASN’T WORKED FOR HIM TECHNICALLY IN MONTHS JUST DOING TECHNICALLY IN MONTHS JUST DOING SOME ADVICE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME ADVICE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN URGENTLY WRITING HIM CHECKS ON A URGENTLY WRITING HIM CHECKS ON A VERY, VERY TIMELY BASIS. VERY, VERY TIMELY BASIS. VERY UN-TRUMP LIKE. VERY UN-TRUMP LIKE.>>AND, TIM, THE — THERE HASN’T>>AND, TIM, THE — THERE HASN’T REALLY BEEN A DEFENSE OFFERED REALLY BEEN A DEFENSE OFFERED FOR THESE CHECKS, BUT WHAT FOR THESE CHECKS, BUT WHAT THEY’VE — WHAT THEY’VE TRIED TO THEY’VE — WHAT THEY’VE TRIED TO SORT OF PUMP OUT THERE THROUGH SORT OF PUMP OUT THERE THROUGH SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS SOME OF THE REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE WHO ARE OF THE COMMITTEE WHO ARE PUBLICLY ASKING QUESTIONS IS PUBLICLY ASKING QUESTIONS IS THAT THERE WAS A RETAINER THAT THERE WAS A RETAINER AGREEMENT FOR THIS LAWYER. AGREEMENT FOR THIS LAWYER. MICHAEL COHEN IS INDEED A MICHAEL COHEN IS INDEED A LAWYER. LAWYER. BUT YOU HAVE ALL THESE PUBLIC BUT YOU HAVE ALL THESE PUBLIC STATEMENTS FROM DONALD TRUMP STATEMENTS FROM DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF SAYING THAT, OH, MICHAEL HIMSELF SAYING THAT, OH, MICHAEL COHEN DIDN’T DO ANYTHING FOR ME. COHEN DIDN’T DO ANYTHING FOR ME. HE WAS JUST THIS GUY I LET HANG HE WAS JUST THIS GUY I LET HANG AROUND. AROUND. HE DIDN’T REALLY DO ANYTHING. HE DIDN’T REALLY DO ANYTHING. AS USUAL, ON THE RECORD, WE HAVE AS USUAL, ON THE RECORD, WE HAVE TRUMP STATEMENTS THAT SORT OF TRUMP STATEMENTS THAT SORT OF CONTRADICT A TRUMP THEORY OF CONTRADICT A TRUMP THEORY OF DEFENSE. DEFENSE. THE OTHER ISSUE IS IF YOU’RE A THE OTHER ISSUE IS IF YOU’RE A LAWYER IN A RETAINER AGREEMENT, LAWYER IN A RETAINER AGREEMENT, THOSE THINGS ARE WRITTEN. THOSE THINGS ARE WRITTEN. I’VE SEEN RETAINER AGREEMENTS I’VE SEEN RETAINER AGREEMENTS FOR LAWYERS. FOR LAWYERS. THEY’RE PRETTY SIMPLE. THEY’RE PRETTY SIMPLE.>>YES.>>YES.>>THERE’S GOT TO BE A RETAINER>>THERE’S GOT TO BE A RETAINER AGREEMENT THAT YOU PRODUCE OR AGREEMENT THAT YOU PRODUCE OR THERE ISN’T. THERE ISN’T. IF ALLEN WEISSLEBERG CAN’T IF ALLEN WEISSLEBERG CAN’T PRODUCE THAT RETAINER AGREEMENT, PRODUCE THAT RETAINER AGREEMENT, I DON’T KNOW HOW HE JUSTIFIES I DON’T KNOW HOW HE JUSTIFIES SIGNING THESE CHECKS. SIGNING THESE CHECKS.>>WELL, THEN WE’D BE SHOCKED>>WELL, THEN WE’D BE SHOCKED AGAIN TO DISCOVER THAT MEMBERS AGAIN TO DISCOVER THAT MEMBERS OF THE TRUMP TRIO ARE LYING OF THE TRUMP TRIO ARE LYING ABOUT WHAT’S OCCURRED HERE. ABOUT WHAT’S OCCURRED HERE. YOU KNOW, IT’S INTERESTING THAT YOU KNOW, IT’S INTERESTING THAT THAT IRREVOCABLE TRUST IS IN THAT IRREVOCABLE TRUST IS IN PLACE HERE. PLACE HERE. IT WAS ESSENTIALLY THIS FIG LEAF IT WAS ESSENTIALLY THIS FIG LEAF THAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO GIVE THE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED TO GIVE THE APPEARANCE THAT THE TRUMP FAMILY APPEARANCE THAT THE TRUMP FAMILY WAS INSULATING THE TRUMP FAMILY WAS INSULATING THE TRUMP FAMILY BUSINESSES FROM THE WHITE HOUSE BUSINESSES FROM THE WHITE HOUSE BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT CAME INTO BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT CAME INTO THE WHITE HOUSE AS THE MOST THE WHITE HOUSE AS THE MOST FINANCIALLY CONFLICTED PRESIDENT FINANCIALLY CONFLICTED PRESIDENT OF THE MODERN ERA. OF THE MODERN ERA. EVERY PRESIDENT PRIOR TO HIM HAD EVERY PRESIDENT PRIOR TO HIM HAD RELEASED THEIR TAX RETURNS. RELEASED THEIR TAX RETURNS. IF THEY HAD BUSINESS HOLDINGS, IF THEY HAD BUSINESS HOLDINGS, THEY EITHER PUT THEM INTO AN THEY EITHER PUT THEM INTO AN AUTHENTICALLY BLIND TRUST OR AUTHENTICALLY BLIND TRUST OR SOLD THEM. SOLD THEM. TRUMP DIDN’T DO ANY OF THE TRUMP DIDN’T DO ANY OF THE ABOVE. ABOVE. THAT IRREVOCABLE TRUST IS RUN BY THAT IRREVOCABLE TRUST IS RUN BY ALLEN WEISSLEBERG, THE CEO AND ALLEN WEISSLEBERG, THE CEO AND HIS TWO ELDEST SONS. HIS TWO ELDEST SONS. THE FACT THAT THE CHECKS WERE THE FACT THAT THE CHECKS WERE CUT OF THE OF THE TRUST PRESUMES CUT OF THE OF THE TRUST PRESUMES THAT ALLEN AND THE BOYS KNEW THAT ALLEN AND THE BOYS KNEW WHAT THE MONEY WAS BEING SPENT WHAT THE MONEY WAS BEING SPENT ON SO THEY ARE NOW PART OF A ON SO THEY ARE NOW PART OF A POSSIBLE CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY POSSIBLE CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY INVOLVING THE PAYMENT OF HUSH INVOLVING THE PAYMENT OF HUSH MONEY AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW MONEY AND CAMPAIGN FINANCE LAW VIOLATIONS. VIOLATIONS. I IMAGINE AT SOME POINT IT I IMAGINE AT SOME POINT IT DAWNED ON THEM THIS IS ACTUALLY DAWNED ON THEM THIS IS ACTUALLY NOT A PARTICULARLY BRIGHT GROUP NOT A PARTICULARLY BRIGHT GROUP OF PEOPLE. OF PEOPLE. THEY THOUGHT, UH-OH, WE’VE BEEN THEY THOUGHT, UH-OH, WE’VE BEEN PULLED INTO THIS AND THEY TELL PULLED INTO THIS AND THEY TELL THE PRESIDENT IT HAS TO COME THE PRESIDENT IT HAS TO COME FROM ELSEWHERE. FROM ELSEWHERE. TRUMP SAYS, OKAY, I’LL USE MY TRUMP SAYS, OKAY, I’LL USE MY PERSONAL CHECKING ACCOUNT. PERSONAL CHECKING ACCOUNT. HE’S ALSO SAID THAT HE WASN’T HE’S ALSO SAID THAT HE WASN’T REALLY SURE WHERE ANY OF THESE REALLY SURE WHERE ANY OF THESE FUNDS WERE GOING OR WHAT THEY FUNDS WERE GOING OR WHAT THEY WERE BEING USED FOR. WERE BEING USED FOR. IT REMINDED ME IN THE MID-1980s, IT REMINDED ME IN THE MID-1980s, “SPY” MAGAZINE DID THIS GREAT “SPY” MAGAZINE DID THIS GREAT SPOOF WHERE THEY MAILED CHECKS. SPOOF WHERE THEY MAILED CHECKS. 50 PEOPLE, INCLUDING DONALD 50 PEOPLE, INCLUDING DONALD TRUMP CASHED IT. TRUMP CASHED IT. THEN FOR 5 BUCKS, FOUR PEOPLE THEN FOR 5 BUCKS, FOUR PEOPLE AND DONALD TRUMP. AND DONALD TRUMP. 50 CENTS. 50 CENTS. TRUMP WAS THE ONLY ONE TO CASH TRUMP WAS THE ONLY ONE TO CASH FINAL CHECK. FINAL CHECK. THIS IS A GUY WHO KNOWS WHERE THIS IS A GUY WHO KNOWS WHERE EVERY DOLLAR IS GOING. EVERY DOLLAR IS GOING.>>DONNY, ONE THING LINDSEY>>DONNY, ONE THING LINDSEY GRAHAM SAID IN HIS, YOU KNOW, GRAHAM SAID IN HIS, YOU KNOW, DEFENSE OF DONALD TRUMP HERE IS, DEFENSE OF DONALD TRUMP HERE IS, OH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON’T OH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON’T COMMIT CRIMES WITH CHECKS. COMMIT CRIMES WITH CHECKS. WHAT LINDSEY GRAHAM IS WHAT LINDSEY GRAHAM IS SUGGESTING IN THAT IS THAT SUGGESTING IN THAT IS THAT DONALD TRUMP AS PRESIDENT OF THE DONALD TRUMP AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES COULD SOMEHOW GET UNITED STATES COULD SOMEHOW GET $35,000 OVER THE COURSE OF THE $35,000 OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF YEAR, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OUT OF A BANK SOMEHOW IN DOLLARS OUT OF A BANK SOMEHOW IN CASH AND DELIVER THESE MASSIVE CASH AND DELIVER THESE MASSIVE PILES OF CASH TO MICHAEL COHEN PILES OF CASH TO MICHAEL COHEN WITH ALL OF THOSE CASH WITH ALL OF THOSE CASH TRANSACTIONS BEING ILLEGAL. TRANSACTIONS BEING ILLEGAL.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>ALL OF THEM.>>ALL OF THEM.>>LIKE, SO, YOU KNOW, LINDSEY>>LIKE, SO, YOU KNOW, LINDSEY GRAHAM’S DEFENSE IS, WHY DIDN’T GRAHAM’S DEFENSE IS, WHY DIDN’T HE COMMIT THE CRIME IN AN EVEN HE COMMIT THE CRIME IN AN EVEN BULKIER WAY THAT WOULD CREATE BULKIER WAY THAT WOULD CREATE EVEN MORE PROBLEMS FOR HIM? EVEN MORE PROBLEMS FOR HIM?>>WE’RE NOT GOING TO FIND LOGIC>>WE’RE NOT GOING TO FIND LOGIC IN LINDSEY GRAHAM. IN LINDSEY GRAHAM. THAT WOULD BE A FOUR-HOUR THAT WOULD BE A FOUR-HOUR SPECIAL. SPECIAL. I WANT TO GO BACK TO WEISSLEBERG I WANT TO GO BACK TO WEISSLEBERG AND DRAW A LINE TO BIRDIE AND DRAW A LINE TO BIRDIE MADOFF. MADOFF. NOT THAT TRUMP IS RUNNING A NOT THAT TRUMP IS RUNNING A PONZI SCHEME. PONZI SCHEME. BERNIE MADOFF HAD A $50 BILLION BERNIE MADOFF HAD A $50 BILLION FUND AND ONE ACCOUNTANT IN A FUND AND ONE ACCOUNTANT IN A STRIP MALL. STRIP MALL. WHEN YOU ARE DOING NEFARIOUS WHEN YOU ARE DOING NEFARIOUS STUFF, YOU CAN’T HAVE A LOT OF STUFF, YOU CAN’T HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE INVOLVED. PEOPLE INVOLVED. WHAT’S GOING TO BE SAD AND WHAT’S GOING TO BE SAD AND TRAGIC AS WE UNPEEL THIS — TRAGIC AS WE UNPEEL THIS –>>AND FUNNY –>>AND FUNNY –>>WELL, SAD.>>WELL, SAD.>>THE AUDIENCE WILL DECIDE.>>THE AUDIENCE WILL DECIDE.>>OKAY.>>OKAY. IT WILL CERTAINLY BE IT WILL CERTAINLY BE INTERESTING. INTERESTING. YOU’RE GOING TO SEE EVERYTHING YOU’RE GOING TO SEE EVERYTHING JUST WENT THROUGH THIS LITTLE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS LITTLE GREEN VISOR GUY WHERE THIS HUGE GREEN VISOR GUY WHERE THIS HUGE — SUPPOSEDLY HUGE CORPORATION, — SUPPOSEDLY HUGE CORPORATION, THERE IS NO FINANCE DEPARTMENT. THERE IS NO FINANCE DEPARTMENT. THERE IS NO CONTROLLERS. THERE IS NO CONTROLLERS. THERE’S NO BUDGET DIRECTORS. THERE’S NO BUDGET DIRECTORS. WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING EITHER A WHEN YOU ARE RUNNING EITHER A PONZI SCHEME OR A DISHONEST PONZI SCHEME OR A DISHONEST CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION, IT’S GOT CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION, IT’S GOT TO BE VERY, VERY ISOLATED. TO BE VERY, VERY ISOLATED. THIS WAS VERY ISOLATED AND THIS WAS VERY ISOLATED AND YOU’RE STARTING TO SEE IT HERE. YOU’RE STARTING TO SEE IT HERE.>>LET ME GET YOU, DONNY, TO THE>>LET ME GET YOU, DONNY, TO THE PARDONS, BECAUSE YOU WOULD KNOW PARDONS, BECAUSE YOU WOULD KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS THAN ANYONE WHO MORE ABOUT THIS THAN ANYONE WHO CAN TALK TO US. CAN TALK TO US. THESE STORIES THAT WE’RE GETTING THESE STORIES THAT WE’RE GETTING TONIGHT SAYING THAT PEOPLE — TONIGHT SAYING THAT PEOPLE — LAWYERS SAYING WE’RE CLOSE TO LAWYERS SAYING WE’RE CLOSE TO RUDY GIULIANI ARE APPROACHING RUDY GIULIANI ARE APPROACHING MICHAEL COHEN SHORTLY AFTER THE MICHAEL COHEN SHORTLY AFTER THE RAID AND THEY’RE TALKING TO HIM RAID AND THEY’RE TALKING TO HIM ABOUT POSSIBILITIES — STAYING ABOUT POSSIBILITIES — STAYING IN THE TENT. IN THE TENT. THIS KIND OF CODE LANGUAGE. THIS KIND OF CODE LANGUAGE. WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT? WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT THAT?>>WELL, I’M NOT AT LIBERTY TO>>WELL, I’M NOT AT LIBERTY TO TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT I WILL TALK TALK ABOUT THAT, BUT I WILL TALK ABOUT TRUMP AS AN AUTOCRAT. ABOUT TRUMP AS AN AUTOCRAT. IF YOU’RE AN AUTOCRAT AND YOU IF YOU’RE AN AUTOCRAT AND YOU ALSO OPERATE ABOVE THE LAW, WHAT ALSO OPERATE ABOVE THE LAW, WHAT IS THE MOST AUTOCRATIC TOOL A IS THE MOST AUTOCRATIC TOOL A PRESIDENT HAS? PRESIDENT HAS? IT’S A PARDON. IT’S A PARDON.>>YEAH.>>YEAH.>>YOU MORE THAN ANYBODY>>YOU MORE THAN ANYBODY UNDERSTANDING DONALD TRUMP, UNDERSTANDING DONALD TRUMP, UNDERSTANDING HIS CONSTANT NEED UNDERSTANDING HIS CONSTANT NEED TO AND ABILITY TO KNOCK DOWN TO AND ABILITY TO KNOCK DOWN OBSTACLES, THAT IN SOME WAY, OBSTACLES, THAT IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, IN MAY MAFIO SEW SHAPE OR FORM, IN MAY MAFIO SEW WAY, NOT A DIRECT WAY. WAY, NOT A DIRECT WAY. IT WASN’T MAKE SENSE IF THEY IT WASN’T MAKE SENSE IF THEY WEREN’T. WEREN’T. I’M NOT AT LIBERTY TO TALK ABOUT I’M NOT AT LIBERTY TO TALK ABOUT WHETHER PARDONS WERE OFFERED OR WHETHER PARDONS WERE OFFERED OR NOT OFFERED. NOT OFFERED. I DO KNOW, THOUGH, THAT COMMON I DO KNOW, THOUGH, THAT COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THAT IF YOU’RE SENSE TELLS YOU THAT IF YOU’RE DONALD TRUMP AND YOU KNOW THAT DONALD TRUMP AND YOU KNOW THAT MICHAEL COHEN KNOWS WHERE ALL MICHAEL COHEN KNOWS WHERE ALL THE BODIES WERE BURIED, AT SOME THE BODIES WERE BURIED, AT SOME POINT HE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST POINT HE WOULD HAVE AT LEAST WANTED TO KEEP HIM UNDER THE WANTED TO KEEP HIM UNDER THE TENT UNTIL IT WAS NO LONGER AN TENT UNTIL IT WAS NO LONGER AN OPTION. OPTION.>>ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE>>ONE MORE THING ABOUT THE TESTIMONY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BY TESTIMONY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS BY MICHAEL COHEN. MICHAEL COHEN. DO YOU KNOW IN IF THE DO YOU KNOW IN IF THE CLOSED-DOOR TESTIMONY MICHAEL CLOSED-DOOR TESTIMONY MICHAEL COHEN IS IN EFFECT ALLOWED BY COHEN IS IN EFFECT ALLOWED BY THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT PROSECUTORS AND BY ROBERT PROSECUTORS AND BY ROBERT MUELLER TO SAY MORE — MUELLER TO SAY MORE –>>NO.>>NO.>>– THAN IN THE PUBLIC>>– THAN IN THE PUBLIC TESTIMONY? TESTIMONY?>>NO, HE IS REALLY BOUND IN>>NO, HE IS REALLY BOUND IN TERMS OF THESE THINGS. TERMS OF THESE THINGS. LOOK, HE’S BEING VERY CAREFUL. LOOK, HE’S BEING VERY CAREFUL. THAT’S WHY I FIND IT LAUGHABLE THAT’S WHY I FIND IT LAUGHABLE WHEN PEOPLE WERE SUGGESTING THAT WHEN PEOPLE WERE SUGGESTING THAT HE WAS LYING THE OTHER DAY WHEN HE WAS LYING THE OTHER DAY WHEN THEY WERE EDITING THIS THING. THEY WERE EDITING THIS THING. YES, THIS GUY IF HE TELLS THE YES, THIS GUY IF HE TELLS THE TRUTH GETS NOTHING. TRUTH GETS NOTHING. IF HE LIES, HE GETS MORE JAIL IF HE LIES, HE GETS MORE JAIL TIME. TIME. HE’S GOING IN THE FRONT OF THE HE’S GOING IN THE FRONT OF THE ENTIRE WORLD, OH, THIS IS A GOOD ENTIRE WORLD, OH, THIS IS A GOOD ONE. ONE. THE LAWYERS EDITED MY STATEMENT. THE LAWYERS EDITED MY STATEMENT. YEAH, I THINK I’M JUST GOING TO YEAH, I THINK I’M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT ON MY OWN AND IT’S NOT SAY THAT ON MY OWN AND IT’S NOT GOING TO BE TRUTHFUL. GOING TO BE TRUTHFUL. IT’S PREPOSTEROUS TO THINK IT’S PREPOSTEROUS TO THINK THAT’S A LIE. THAT’S A LIE. MICHAEL IS BEING VERY CAREFUL MICHAEL IS BEING VERY CAREFUL WHEN IT COMES TO ANY WHEN IT COMES TO ANY INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT, ROBERT THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT, ROBERT MUELLER, ANYTHING GOING ON. MUELLER, ANYTHING GOING ON. CLOSED DOORS OR OPEN DOORS, HIS CLOSED DOORS OR OPEN DOORS, HIS LINE IS THERE ARE CERTAIN PLACES LINE IS THERE ARE CERTAIN PLACES YOU CAN’T GO. YOU CAN’T GO.>>TIM, ALLEN WEISSLEBERG, IT>>TIM, ALLEN WEISSLEBERG, IT JUST KEEPS COMING DOWN TO ALLEN JUST KEEPS COMING DOWN TO ALLEN WEISSLEBERG. WEISSLEBERG. HE’S GOING TO BE ASKED SOME HE’S GOING TO BE ASKED SOME POINT PROBABLY PUBLICLY IN THESE POINT PROBABLY PUBLICLY IN THESE HEARINGS WAS THERE A RETAINER HEARINGS WAS THERE A RETAINER AGREEMENT? AGREEMENT? CAN YOU SHOW US THE RETAINER CAN YOU SHOW US THE RETAINER AGREEMENT, A PIECE OF PAPER, OR AGREEMENT, A PIECE OF PAPER, OR HE’S JUST GOING TO SAY, NO, HE’S JUST GOING TO SAY, NO, THERE WASN’T. THERE WASN’T. MICHAEL COHEN IS TELLING THE MICHAEL COHEN IS TELLING THE TRUTH. TRUTH. THIS IS OUR REIMBURSEMENT METHOD THIS IS OUR REIMBURSEMENT METHOD FOR HIM. FOR HIM. HE DOESN’T HAVE A LOT OF RANGE HE DOESN’T HAVE A LOT OF RANGE OF POSSIBILITY HERE. OF POSSIBILITY HERE.>>THAT’S PROBABLY THE LEAST OF>>THAT’S PROBABLY THE LEAST OF HIS WORRIES IN THE TERMS OF HIS WORRIES IN THE TERMS OF QUESTIONS HE’S GOING TO GET QUESTIONS HE’S GOING TO GET BECAUSE HE’S BEEN THERE FOR BECAUSE HE’S BEEN THERE FOR DECADES. DECADES. THEY’RE GOING TO ASK HIM ABOUT THEY’RE GOING TO ASK HIM ABOUT TRUMP’S TAX RETURNS. TRUMP’S TAX RETURNS. THEY’RE GOING TO ASK HIM ABOUT THEY’RE GOING TO ASK HIM ABOUT POSSIBLE MONEY LAUNDERING. POSSIBLE MONEY LAUNDERING. THEY’RE GOING TO ASK HIM ABOUT THEY’RE GOING TO ASK HIM ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY COMMITTED WHETHER OR NOT THEY COMMITTED INSURANCE FRAUD. INSURANCE FRAUD. WHICH IS WHY I SUSPECT BEFORE WHICH IS WHY I SUSPECT BEFORE ALLEN WEISSLEBERG EVEN LANDS IN ALLEN WEISSLEBERG EVEN LANDS IN CONGRESS HE’S GOING TO GET AN CONGRESS HE’S GOING TO GET AN IMMUNITY DEAL IN ORDER TO SIT IMMUNITY DEAL IN ORDER TO SIT THERE AND TALK BECAUSE HIS THERE AND TALK BECAUSE HIS KNOWLEDGE IS SO VAST AND KNOWLEDGE IS SO VAST AND EXPANSIVE THAT I DON’T KNOW HOW EXPANSIVE THAT I DON’T KNOW HOW HE COULD GO IN AND NOT HE COULD GO IN AND NOT INCRIMINATE HIMSELF BECAUSE HE’S INCRIMINATE HIMSELF BECAUSE HE’S BEEN TIED TO THE HIP WITH TRUMP BEEN TIED TO THE HIP WITH TRUMP FOR DECADES ON THIS STUFF. FOR DECADES ON THIS STUFF.>>YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE>>YOU KNOW, IF THERE WERE IMPORTANT HEAVIER CRIMES IMPORTANT HEAVIER CRIMES INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS, THE INVOLVED IN ALL OF THIS, THE FIRST THING ANY ACCOUNTANT WOULD FIRST THING ANY ACCOUNTANT WOULD POINT TO IN THIS SWITCH OF POINT TO IN THIS SWITCH OF CHECKS IS A BUSINESS IS PAYING A CHECKS IS A BUSINESS IS PAYING A BUSINESS EXPENSE TO MICHAEL BUSINESS EXPENSE TO MICHAEL COHEN AND DEDUCTING IT — COHEN AND DEDUCTING IT –>>RIGHT.>>RIGHT.>>– FROM THIS TAXES AND THAT>>– FROM THIS TAXES AND THAT BUSINESS SUDDENLY DECIDES IT’S BUSINESS SUDDENLY DECIDES IT’S NOT A BUSINESS EXPENSE AND IT’S NOT A BUSINESS EXPENSE AND IT’S THEN PAID BY AN INDIVIDUAL — THEN PAID BY AN INDIVIDUAL –>>OUT OF HIS OWN ACCOUNT.>>OUT OF HIS OWN ACCOUNT.>>THAT MEANS THE BUSINESS>>THAT MEANS THE BUSINESS PAYMENTS WERE ILLEGAL. PAYMENTS WERE ILLEGAL. BUT THAT IS THE TINIEST OF THE BUT THAT IS THE TINIEST OF THE POSSIBLE ILLEGALITIES IN THIS POSSIBLE ILLEGALITIES IN THIS WHOLE SCHEME. WHOLE SCHEME.>>AS WE TALK — THIS IS ALL>>AS WE TALK — THIS IS ALL VERY TIMELY. VERY TIMELY. THIS IS ALL SCRATCHING THE THIS IS ALL SCRATCHING THE SURFACE, MY FRIEND. SURFACE, MY FRIEND.>>YOUR POINT IS THERE IS A>>YOUR POINT IS THERE IS A MOUNTAIN, AND MICHAEL COHEN IS MOUNTAIN, AND MICHAEL COHEN IS NOW JUST PLAYING AROUND WITH THE NOW JUST PLAYING AROUND WITH THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG PUBLICLY. TIP OF THE ICEBERG PUBLICLY.>>WE SEE HOW TRUMP FLAUNTS THE>>WE SEE HOW TRUMP FLAUNTS THE LAW PUBLICLY. LAW PUBLICLY. IMAGINE AT THE HEAD OF A PRIVATE IMAGINE AT THE HEAD OF A PRIVATE COMPANY WHAT HE WAS DOING IN THE COMPANY WHAT HE WAS DOING IN THE REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, WHICH IS REAL ESTATE BUSINESS, WHICH IS SO SLIPPERY TO BEGIN WITH. SO SLIPPERY TO BEGIN WITH. ANY TYPE OF FRAUD, CHEATING, ANY TYPE OF FRAUD, CHEATING, WHETHER IT BE TAXES, BANK, WHETHER IT BE TAXES, BANK, PHILANTHROPIC, THAT’S WHAT THIS PHILANTHROPIC, THAT’S WHAT THIS GUY DOES. GUY DOES.>>DONNY DEUTSCH, THE GUIDE TO

100 thoughts on “Cohen Friend: New Revelations About Trump Just ‘Scratching The Surface’ | The Last Word | MSNBC”

  1. THE MSM STILL VOMITING OUT SAME OLD CRAP PROPAGANDA ON PRES TRUMP BUT THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THEY ARE MERE SCRIPTED PUPPETS MSM CASTER YOU SEE HAVE SIGNED THEIR SOULS, VALUES. PROMISE TO DECEIVE, LIE TO AMERICANS. PRES TRUMP RATTLING CHAINS OF DS INCLUDED EDITORS/OWNERS PROOF https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mje1O8pfi_8 STILL NO CRIMES AGAINST PRES TRUMP! WAKE UP!!

  2. Odd isn't that there are no Trumpers in the comments disputing any of these clear facts that they know are true and can't explain them away.

  3. Painful "entertainment” – painful to the country and painful for us (including trumpf cult followers), especially for those who aren't the infamous 1%!! That's why I would prefer to watch the "Sopranos." I can turn it off after the show is over, one hour each week and not be affected by the slings and arrows of the CORRUPTED!!!

  4. Cohan has a lawyer, Lenny, oh isn't that HRC friend and lawyer? Shiff team coached Cohan for 10 hrs. That's a crime. It's all good? That's what I thought.

  5. Whenever Trump, the DRAMA QUEEN PRESIDENT, tries to look presidential, he just looks like a Pouty, whiney, little boy, DRAMA QUEEN!,, Trump, still too dumb to know that he is too dumb to be president.

  6. You I honestly believe our country is in a state of play ball with our president or we will not prosper. This bickering between the Democrats and Republicans is an old story already. Please grow up America. This bickering reminds of the north and south. We are blessed to live in America our country is the greatest in the world. God bless America

  7. I think it would be so much fun if Cohen would do a public polygraph while he is still out. Trump would literally pee his pants.

  8. We learned new lies more like it.Lol cohen lied to congress how many times but we still believe him cause we believe anyone thats against Trump.Lets see how far this will get them.Hasnt worked so far.Love you President Trump.Keep working for the american people.Show them that, that is way to win elections.

  9. lol. now, trump stuck in becoming the president and have to appease to his base. He have to do what he promised especially those border walls. all his stupid rhetorics and his base believed him. all the ugly(heart) americans came out in support of trump because of what he promised OR they will lynch him themselves! Wasn't there story of how melania got angry at trump the day they won? He thought, he wouldn't win and only want to promo his name and business. That's what he's all about. HIMSELF! And, you idiots thought, he was going to maga. Look, who having the last laugh! Killery!! ahaha!

  10. When dump and the rest of his crime family end up in prison, raid their stolen treasury and make them pay for their own incarceration.

  11. Donald Trump is a greater threat to this country than ISIS, MS-13, Al Qaeda, Taliban, North Korea, Ebola, and a giant meteor combined.

  12. Trump is a con-jerk….wouldn't go as far as to call him an "artist"….he isn't smart enough to be a good con-artist…that's why he is in the corner now !……This is all just taking way too long is all ! – – – Most of us knew a long long time ago that trump was a jerk not to be trusted..

  13. STOP the hammering!!! STOP the hammering!!! O'Donald, you're a classless, lying POS- you're in dire need of psychiatric treatment

  14. Clearer and clearer the draft dodging twittering recluse is compromised. Let's vote the wanna-be dictator out 2020!

  15. Remember Dumbald Trump said of Michael Cohen…"Oh I barely know him, I couldn't pick him out in a crowd." Another lie he's been caught up in. Loser!

  16. Quick question. Who thinks Cohen should have the book thrown at him? Or should he receive leniency for cooperation? Also, who thinks Manafort got away light?

  17. Trump's house of cards is crumbling. Crooks eventually get caught. Follow the money, Weisselberg will not want to go to jail for Trump. I hope Sekolow is proven to be a liar about editing Michael Cohen's statement to Congress. We already know Trump and Giuliani lie all the time. Great reporting Lawrence.

  18. OR Donald trump saw there was a $1.50 charge for checks from the trust account but his own personal checks were free…

  19. The last time someone said "this is only scratching the surface" it was Avenatti…. and then the FBI raided Cohen's office and we found out Hannity was Cohen's "client" too….. Can't wait to see what happens in Season 9 of the Trump reality show.

  20. @08:35

    Trump is supposed to be a billionaire.

    Why did Trump put Cohen on an installment plan for a paltry one hundred and thirty grand
    that Cohen forked over in a wad?

    Unless this was just a 'revolving account' that Cohen set up to keep Trump's nocturnal proclivities quite?

    The fact that Cohen had to use his home as collateral to set up a line of credit large enough
    seems to speak more to something truly lacking, in what is normally a mutually satisfying situation.

  21. You show me a lawyer that hasn't lied and/or cheated in some way or another and I'LL eat a maga hat?. Thank you Mr. Cohen for making amends for your short coming by finally telling the truth…

  22. "one bad apple spoils the whole barrel" We know he lies repeatedly and his party never calls him out on it.. What does that say about them. My main problem is their agreeing with him on the "caged children.

  23. Great justice system when crooks with money and connections can get a 'get out of jail' card on request from this poor excuse for a president. A pardon is an admission of guilt, and should be earned, not gifted for doing dirty deals and getting caught at it.

  24. It's really a SAD day. Is America really being mad great? Come on leaders, help Mueller and real media reporting facts!!!

  25. Can you stop reporting these lies about my president of the "United Mistakes, pardon me…States of America."

  26. They planned to get rid of me and use my personal details to keep committing fraud when I am gone.

  27. OBAMA WAS WORSE.
    TRUMP DID EVEN MUCH BETTER THAN BUSH.

    SAVE TRUMP FROM THE DEMOCRATS PESECUTION COMPLEX WITH THE MEDIA IN COLLUSION.

    DEMOCRAT PARTY IS UNFAIR.

    THE DEMOCRATS WERE FAILURES
    IN PREVIOUS OBAMA'S ADMINISTRATION.

    YOU REMEMBER THOSE DANGEROUS YEARS?
    EVEN THE COPS WERE IN PERIL?

    OBAMA AND DEMOCRAT PARTY CREATED THE $ 15 TRILLION NATIONAL DEBT.

    AFTER THEIR FAILURES, NOT SATISFIED, THEY TRY TO OBSTRUCT THE SUCCESS OF THIS. ADMINISTRATION; THAT'S HOW DIRTY THIS PARTY OF THE DEMOCRATS HAS BECOME.

  28. trump 20 to 30
    in Leavenwoth

    LOCK HIM UP!!!
    LOCK HIM UP!!!
    LOCK HIM UP!!!
    LOCK HIM UP!!!
    LOCK HIM UP!!!
    LOCK THEM ALL UP!!!

  29. So trump set up a blind trust to run trump Inc yet trump is signing checks. So CPA Jr daddy . spy magazine checks. Sent to trump. Donald Madoff trump Sr. RICO TIME

  30. Kushner we know received $25 from Israel also we know he changed UN vote by cheating. I don’t get it how we allow this to go on. Citizens in millions should walk to the WH and arrest everyone including his corrupt appointees.

  31. Trump mania I love it , but Cohen ? The dude is not exactly the best source for truth , maybe he was trying to lower his sentence . Besides he said Trump wasn't evil , he never mistreated his wife in the elevator , there is no pee pee tape , and no collusion, sooo if you believe Cohen ……I'm not sure why people are inventing stuff too look into in trumpfs past life as a businessman , I bet his taxes clean and he paid ! He is waking people up to corruption ,however he's locking up criminals at a record rate , after all you people want to get him on tax evasion ???? Bs it's illegal anyway !!! Our tax system is the bedrock for socialism , the 16th amendment is usery , they tax you for going to work , !!! You should be taxed if you don't work , JK . It's usery and cnn I'm talking to you why ?? Start doing real news for your viewers , expose the deep corruption in our government, expose who really did 911 ,when did news become sitting behind the desk and reading wh releases or just giving your opinion !!!

  32. TIM O'BRIEN: Dude, read the check. It is not drawn on an IRREVOCABLE trust. The check identifies the trust as the DONALD TRUMP REVOCABLE TRUST. The two types, revocable and irrevocable, are very different, and you need to read the check before that you announce that the wrong set of rules applies.

  33. I am screaming at moderate independents just like me that vote for the best person, but Donald Trump never worked a day in his stinking filthy life! He would not fight in Vietnam, daddy saved baby man from a bloody mess yet they support him?

  34. FOLKS WE GOTTA DO BETTER THAN BABY MAN,BORN TO LOSE OUR MONEY! STRIP US OF OUR MORALS & OUR TRUTH TO BE A BETTER NATION UNDER LIBERTY & JUSTICE FOR ALLLLLLLLL!

  35. As it is said – birds of a feather stick together, GOP has now become a Trump subsidiary company so they have to protect him,

  36. Guess the so claimed to be a " STABLE GENIOUS " wasn't so must a genious whenever he paid for something that is allegedly an illegal act with a CHECK SIGNED BY YOU…. That really was smart ain't it ?

  37. trump went to reform school not military school the only military was the guards his sat an I Q so low they just put in complete , to save imberesment!

  38. And think, half of America thinks Trump is a savior of the common man. You got to give Trump credit on how much Horse plop he can deliver. It s doesn't matter what anyone says or proves , he gets by untouched by his supporters. He can literally do anything, and the base loves it, illegal, immoral, unethical matters not. He has objectified his base, like the pornstars he has been with. Eventually he just walk out on stage and make ape noises and splatter his base audience with his political sauce. The smell off this guy is horrible.

  39. Tyrants use witness tampering all the time. 60s mafia trials bear witness, passing baton to WH Mafia Family.

  40. why the checks after the first come from a different account? duuh, to make it look less suspicious as the media blew up about it or as they realized a personal account would look too obvious. i'd have done the same thing in his shoes if i were trying to cover it up. except i'd make sure not to make the mistake of using my personal account the first time. .

  41. Nadler should recuse himself from the investigation of President Trump due to his extreme bias and his personal vendetta against President Trump.

  42. We have a president who has how many people like construction workers suing him just to get paid for the hard work the did. What a scum bag. He hurts the hard working Americans and gloats about how rich he is and that he had gold faucets in his home. Put there by a hard working man who never got paid, to feed his family or put gas in his truck.

  43. Much love and Best of Luck Michael; Best Wishes to you and all your loved ones!! ? ❤️❤? ❤️❤️??❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️? I feel so bad for Michael Cohen having to go to Prison, despite being as cooperative and forthcoming as he has been. He has completely redeemed himself and I wish there was a way in which he could be pardoned!!!???? (Not by 45; he should actually no longer be allowed to make any decisions for our country, as he has far too many investigations surrounding him and his family). Anyway, I wish Michael Cohen all the best and am very proud of him for facing the music, in the way that he has. All the best! ? ? ?

  44. Republicans want to focus on socialism and AOC.Democrats need to focus on medicare/medicaid reductions after big tax cuts for millionaires and the cowardice of Republicans to disagree with a traitor.

  45. That's made him a criminal, Trump pays of his accusers and brought Bill Clinton accused to the debate between Hillary Clinton and him. Trump is dangerous criminal and corrupt.

  46. What I find so mind twisting is this; "I have the greatest , smartest brain and I know more than anybody else about( pick your choice here)…, yet I signed all those personal checks paying Michael his money back!!!
    Another "possession of brain with intent to use"…here☝

  47. These clowns at MSNBC have been scratching the surface for two years. I'm getting tired of waiting for facts. I think MSNBC is BS.

  48. Cohn having trouble remembering what is true or false. Maybe you talked heads stop spreading propaganda. Mueller report going to clear trump. ???????

  49. The cheques issue to Cohen could be from campaign funds from NRA (30 million) on his personal account, if so it is disgraceful

  50. the sad situation is both parties are corrupt from top to bottom.listen to the unbreaking america video on u tube

  51. Trump says “Witch hunt,, fake news”. Afraid of the FBI, because he would have to tell the truth, because he lies all the time.

  52. IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO POST THE DATES OF THESE " BREAKING NEWS " REPORTS TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN OLD AND NEW " BREAKING NEWS " !

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